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March 2011

The Abstract

by Kevin Czap

Derik Badman Flying Chief

Keeping it rolling from L’s article yesterday, lets continue our discussion about abstract comics.

A battlefield I’m usually weary of entering is the one that’s fought over “what are comics.” I usually find it more useful to look for similarities of form than to draw demarcations. I’ll hazard dipping my little toe into the fray for a second here, if only to refer to one argument that I’ve encountered more than a few times. That argument is the one about whether or not comics need to tell a story. You might think, what a stupid question, of course they do — comics is a perfect storytelling medium… words and pictures, dude. But let’s think about this a bit.

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State of the Encyclopedia – March 2011

Hey cats and dogs,

Lots of stuff going on with me. 2011 is proving to be as exciting and substantial a year as I always knew it could be. I hope you’ve been keeping up with my posts over at the Comix Cube, because when I’m not here I am there.

I’ve also been making a lot of pictures and comics, here are a couple of those things

Ashley Brooke Toussant poster - Kevin Czap

I’ve written about Ashley Brooke Toussant here on this blog before, and I’m still a big fan. She’s been working hard on a new album that’s guaranteed to be outstanding. Anyway, I was very touched when Ashley asked me to draw up a new poster for her, which you can see above. Since I’m such a big fan of hers, I didn’t want to disappoint, and I hope I did the music justice.

Speaking of her new album, she’s hard at work doing all the things that go into making one, and you can give her a hand by contributing to her IndieGoGo fundraiser. One of the perks of that there campaign is, if you donate $50 or more, you can get a big print of my poster above! She’ll also be selling it at her shows, so there’s no excuse not to support this great artist. Her website is here, in case you wanted to see when she’s playing. You can also do the facebook thing.

PAPES

Magic Bullet #2 - Kevin Czap

I submitted the above comic to appear in the newest edition of the newsprint collection Magic Bullet, put together by the DC Conspiracy and features a lot of great stuff, including a page by Jim Rugg! You can pick it up for free at the best comic shops near you.

Sleeping Babies - Kevin Czap

Riding the large newsprint collection wave, I made another comic for another thing. This one did not get in, so I guess I can show it to you here. I was trying to make more abstract, cartoony figures and I think it came out pretty well.

SPACE 2011

Peace Signs display at SPACE 2011 - Kevin Czap

I also trucked on down to Columbus for SPACE, which you remember I blabbed about going to last year. This year I had a table waiting there for me and overall I had a really swell time. I roomed with the real-life siblings of Siblings Inc., Kerry and Dan who are responsible for Cupcakes and Comics (we also shared a room with Joe Medwid). Lots of laffs were had all over the Ramada. I helped to put sprinkles on the cupcakes, which is my proudest moment of the year so far. I wrote a whole bunch more about this show over at the Comix Cube.

Anyway, I put together a new mini for the show, which you can see a sample page from below. The book is called “Peace Signs” and I’ll be selling it at shows throughout the year.

Peace Signs - Kevin Czap

One of the exciting things to come out of my SPACE experience (and there were so many) was I get mentioned in an article on The Beat!. Wow.

Here’s a crazy video those Tallarico kids made about the show.

UNTIL NEXT TIME

I’ve got some more exciting stuff to talk about and show you, but I will need to wait a little longer. Hope you guys haven’t forgotten about PUPPYTEETH 2, because I’ve got a lot of exciting stuff in that regard for the near future.

Have a good April, y’all!

PUPPYTEETH 2

SPACE 2011

by Kevin Czap

a print by Brady Russell

I spoke a bit about scenes and community last week. One of the best opportunities to see the community of any given location in the flesh is at the comics convention. This past weekend, I trucked down to Columbus for the 12th annual Small Press and Alternative Comics Expo (SPACE). I had checked the show out last year, but this year it was the first stop on my big tabling tour. I never end up taking pictures the way I plan to, but that’s probably for the best. Since I’m writing this for the ‘Cube, I think I’ll do more of an overall analysis than gab about all the extracurricular stuff that I did, as usual.

Raya and the Ghosts - Jessi Zabarsky

I feel like the biggest thing I came away with from my SPACE experience was the future of comics. Not so much that I saw the next great big thing in comics that’s going to blow the medium out of the water. Make no mistake, there was great stuff to be found all over the floor. But what I’m really talking about is the future as in the sense of “children are our future.” This manifested itself in a couple of ways.

Indestructible Universe Quarterly #6 - Morgan Pielli

First were the art classes that were there for the experience. Lined up outside the main show space were tables for CCAD’s high school-aged art explorers. From what I could gather, they were all roped along for their comics class, getting started on paying their con dues early. Comics veteran Carol Tyler was also on hand with her own comics class from Cincinnati. Clearly nothing new, hearing about college courses devoted entirely to comics, but it’s exciting to see in the wild. I was able to speak to a couple of the students about the structure of their course, and it was pretty fascinating stuff. Tyler’s putting these kids through some pretty rigorous comics history and practice from what I could gather.

The other thing that really brought it home was by how many little kids were there. Like, not attending, I mean exhibiting. Sure, most were with their parents who were manning (and I assume paying for) the table, but there were so many kids who were selling their own damn comics. This is what I’m talking about – this is the mainstreaming of comics in its own way, passing all the traits of this here Golden Age onto the next generation, so that they will always have known a world of diverse comics. The figurehead of all this for me was this one little androgynous girl who was rocking the confidence, style and just plain coolness of a pro. I wasn’t able to get to take home one of her little minis, but I got to see the one she gave to my buddies from the Bowling Green Toledo Mafia Clan. On Sunday I walked by this little girl bragging about how she sold out of all her stuff. Dang.

Morty the Dog Who Walks Like a Man - Steve Willis

There was plenty of comics history on hand, of course, with representatives of mini- and alt-comics past Colin Upton, Steve Willis and Bruce Chrislip exhibiting. Thanks to Joe Kuth for tipping me off to these guys – I might have missed some essential stuff otherwise. I also had the pleasure of meeting more recent legend John Porcellino, who is really just so nice. The appearance of these gents was in keeping with the show’s theme of celebrating self-published comics. As far as I’m concerned, this is a practice that is worth all the celebration in the world, and I’m happy to add whatever small part to it as I may.

I was also pretty interested in the scenes that seemed to be prominent there. The show organizers seemed to have figured out it was a good idea to shove all the Pittsburgh people together in the same corner of the room. The cumulative result was a palpable energy of comics ingenuity. Not only were my good friends Cupcakes and Comics bringing the con-goers to their knees with Kerry Tallarico’s delicious Blue Velvet cupcakes, but there was also Tom Scioli, the Andromeda crew, and probably every other young comics artist to pick up a pencil in that fine city.

The Chronicles of Captain Cupcake 1.6 - Kerry and Dan Tallarico

Siamese Grandson - Daniel McClosky

Grixly #19 - Nate McDonough

My hometown was well represented by various members of the DC Conspiracy, who I got to spend some quality time with. I had a page in their recent newspaper antho Magic Bullet, which I guess gave me my in. Great group of cartoonists, and the whole concept of the Conspiracy was good fuel for my own scene scheming. Speaking with Matt Dembicki, I was able to get a coherent sense of how the whole thing works. Practical advice about the ins, outs and false starts of a comics scene.

Ohio was in full effect, of course, but maybe a bit scattered (not enjoying the same consolidated arrangement as the Yinzers). I was across from Joe Kuth and a couple of his fellow Cincinnati colleagues (one of which, Brian Hagan, shares a website with Justin Green). The greater Columbus area yielded the trio of http://fredfrancessucks.tumblr.com/, Jeff Gibbons and Mike Madsen, who caught my eye with their tight clothing and winning smugness. I got a bunch of interesting stuff from these good guys, sold in a spray-painted and hand-printed pizza box. I chatted them up a little bit, enough to find their influences were pretty diverse and wide ranging. I’m going to keep my eyes on these kids and I recommend you do the same. I also got to meet Joe Hunter in the flesh, a cartoonist who is a lot better than he’ll ever tell you to your face.

Overall, it was a fun weekend, I learned a lot and I got an encouraging glimpse of the future. I’ll be back at SPACE again next year, and I can only hope that I can take an even more active role.

From 'A Box of Monsters' - Fred Frances

Guts II - Mike Madsen

Uh, Love Story - Jed Collins

Ship + Dip - Joe Hunter


Scenes

by Kevin Czap

Jaime Hernandez, if the scene sucks, you suck

While there are certainly endless avenues to explore just in the vicinity of the craft of comics (and believe me, I could pass the night away just gabbing about them), I think sometimes it helps to step back and get some perspective. A breath of fresh air if you will. It’s important to remember that comics, like any art, is directly tied to the living complex culture that they’re created in. Regular human beings put in the time and effort to make these amazing things that effect us so significantly, and I think it’s useful to think about environments that these folks live in.

Making comics is often noted for being a terribly solitary pursuit. There’s the long-standing stereotype of the hermit cartoonist, a curmudgeon who rarely spends time with other people and devotes their surplus spare time holed up in a room chained to a drawing table. I’m sure we can think of some who fit this description, but it’s also not difficult to think of many exceptions. Regardless of any validity to this perception, comics is inherently a medium of multiplicity. I’m not just talking about juxtaposed panels here — as many small-pressers or self-publishers can tell you, if there’s no one around to read your comic it may as well be making no sound at all.

Art is about people. About the makers, their insights and responses to the world, about the audience who interacts with the work and more. As a thing in the world, comic books live or die based on the network of human hands that tend to it. The history of the form is where it is today, in this golden age, because of all the dedicated individuals who have cooperated over time and place to preserve and support the many many comics artists over time. We’ve reached a great point in time, to be sure.

Going back to focus in on the specific creator or creators of a work, I’ve been interested in thinking about we rely on our local scenes to continue making work. A scene is really the ecosystem a cartoonist works in, comprised of a network of friends, fellow cartoonists, institutions or establishments that aid in getting the work made and even the local flavor of a town. Often times the emotional climate (or hell, the physical climate, too) of a place can be felt through the work that comes out of it.

Clevelyn

I’ve been living in Cleveland for almost eight years now, most of that time I was at school. Like most people, the social and artistic network I was a part of through college was formative in the extreme. I hung around the town after graduation, for a few reasons, not least of them being a somewhat romantic view of this whole scene concept (I hope that doesn’t sour the tone of this article for you). Here’s how I see it…

I grew up in Alexandria, Virginia, which is a suburb neighboring Washington DC. While I was never directly involved in any kind of DC scene, the effects of the punk scene (of which Ian MacKaye and Fugazi were integral) could be felt in the genetic makeup of my highschool experience. Anyway, to make a long story short, one of the reasons DC had such a strong punk scene was a number of native Washingtonians decided to eschew advice to go to New York or LA, and to plant roots right where they were. The result is living history that had a significant impact on rock music in general.

Anyway, following a similar train of thought, who’s to say I can’t make comics here in Cleveland? It doesn’t hurt that two of my absolute heroes in comics, Harvey Pekar and Bill Watterson, were/are Cleveland residents. Only been working at this comics thing seriously for the past year or two, but it’s going pretty well. I’ve met a lot of Ohio area cartoonists, whose work I really admire, but right here in Cleveland proper I’m still a bit of a loner. I believe in this city though, and I’m not about to throw in the towel.

What I’m really interested in is hearing about the scenes you guys are a part of. I know there’s a small concentration of cats in Pittsburgh, Northern VA/DC, Philly, New York, Northampton, Portland, Montreal, etc. So where do you call home? How do you feel it impacts your work? Or do you rely on your physical location at all? Twitter lets cartoonists from all over chat it up on a regular basis. Do you think that face to face contact is crucial? Do y’all have drink ‘n draw nights? Sketch parties? Tell me all about it.

The comments section awaits you:


Asterisms

by Kevin Czap

Joanna Newsom Ys

…we move within his borders
Just asterisms
in the stars’ set
order
We could stand for a century…
— Joanna Newsom, “Emily”

An asterism is a collection of stars seen in the night sky that appear to form a pattern. The star patterns we see, like the Big Dipper, can be light years apart in reality, but their apparent proximity lets us connect the dots to create a picture in our minds. Our constellations come out of this phenomenon originally, when preceding human cultures were able to form stories from the shapes they perceived in the heavens.

This concept should sound pretty familiar to us comics nerds, as it’s the same closure that allows us make sense of the panels of a comic strip. One of the aspects of the medium that continues to fascinate me and charge me full of energy is how atomic the whole operation is. I’m talking protons and neutrons, not Kimota/Shazam. Comics are the building blocks of life — capitalizing on our human instincts to forge complex meaning out of singular information. This is the pulsing brain beat that goes through my mind all day every day. It’s why I’m able to draw so many connections between comics and other forms of culture, because to me, the purpose of comics is to draw those connections. How could I not?

“There was a silence you took to mean something”

As I believe I’ve made clear elsewhere, one of my biggest influences in comics making is music (the kind with lyrics, more often than not). This may seem odd, since comics deal in an entirely exclusionary sense than music. I will probably have occasion to talk more about the similarities in another post, I’ll say for now that the two art forms both go for the same result, but use different methods to get there. If we think of the meaning in comics as being formed from the combination words and visual imagery, narrative or lyrical songs use the combination of words and sound. In both cases, the second half adds emotion and gut feeling to the words through their use of time. But anyway, more on that for another time. What I’m talking about here specifically, and what I find to be the most influential aspect of music, is the structure of the album.

An album, at its most basic, is just a package used to sell a collection of songs (again, this concept is not foreign to comics folks… even the French have adopted the word). But then there came to be those artists who looked at this package and saw space to utilize it as a more integral part of the contents. Most of us have heard of the phrase “concept album,” I’m sure. With the concept record (or rock opera, if you will) the recording becomes a curated event, the songs all composed and arranged according to specific artistic aims (see L’s post from this past Monday). Compositions sharing signs and themes with each other within a larger composition.

Joanna Newsom Ys

I’ve been fascinated by this idea of album narratives for quite some time, having written papers in college about the recurring themes in Rilo Kiley’s More Adventurous and others. When it came to write this, though, I had to go with the best. Released in 2006, Joanna Newsom’s sophomore record, Ys (pronounced like “geese” without the “g”) was an inspirational atom bomb that I’m still suffering the effects of. Newsom can be a polarizing figure, but as far as I’m concerned, this album is a god damn masterwork and I will tell you why it means so much to me.

Ys is an intricately personal work. Composed of 5 songs, averaging at 10 minutes each, the album is largely a response to three hugely significant events in the artist’s life. According to Newsom, about 97% of the record is straight autobiography. People who have heard the album might think that’s a strange statement to make, and for those who haven’t I don’t want to give you the wrong impression. The narratives in Ys may be autobiographical, but they are anything but plain boring navel-gazing. Newsom is one of the ablest poets making music, and what we end up hearing are these real-life circumstances rendered as complex fragmented metaphors, at times verging on the apocryphal.

The lines are fading in my kingdom

“Emily,” named for (and featuring on backing vocals) Newsom’s sister who, being an astrophysicist, is tied to the celestial subject matter. This song focuses on the crumbling kingdom of childhood memories, where the safety and tranquility of home is in dire jeopardy and Joanna is calling desperately for Emily’s return before all is lost. One can right away draw a connection between the content of this song and the title of the album, which refers to the myth of an ancient city off the coast of France that, like Atlantis, was erased from history and buried at the bottom of the sea. Water plays a significant role in other songs, but we can see the significance of such a magnificent place falling to ruin, and the structure of the song mimics this descent. The opening lines describe a storybook setting, yet the tone grows more urgent as the situation gets worse and worse.

Similarly, the next song, “Monkey & Bear” follows a similar downward spiral. More explicit a reference to fairy tales and fables, the music begins as if from a Walt Disney picture, and tells the story of the anthropomorphic titular characters. Again, the light-heartedness doesn’t last long — after Monkey and Bear escape the farm where they’re held captive, Monkey quickly adopts the role of oppressor, keeping Bear as an unwitting slave, similar to the comrades of Animal Farm. Eventually Ursula (for who my beautiful dog is named, and whose name is also reminiscent of the constellation that house the Big Dipper [see above]) can not wait for “someday” any longer and goes off on her own to the sea. It’s here that the metaphorical overtakes the narrative, and we are left with an image of some kind of transcendence, of a transformation taking place.

“Stardust and Diamonds” begins on the sea, where the narrator drops a bell over the side of her vessel, only to have it return to haunt her throughout the 10 minute song (“well I believe that it tolls, it tolls for me”). The song on the surface has to do with events surrounding the creation of a toy dove, really a marionette (“made with love, made with glue, and a glove, and some pliers…”), but deeper down it again deals with a kind of transformation, and also death. There are enough clues in the song that it could be at least partially about a lost child, not brought to term one way or another. Already on the record we see continuing themes of death, destruction, transformation and the transcendence of borders.

My favorite song is also the longest, over 16 minutes. “Only Skin” begins with one of Darryl’s patented “dramatic entrances,” exploding into your ears with a squeek as Joanna announces a booming in the air as warplanes drop from the sky. This song seems to touch on most if not all of the themes the album is concerned with, bringing to the forefront issues of gender and questions of the finality of death that had been swimming under the surface until now. The scope is apparently so far-reaching, that Newsom includes a completely separate song for a few minutes about a third of the way in. Borders and boundaries, remember? Panels within panels. Also of key importance to the whole work is the anecdote about the bird (which should unsurprisingly remind one of the dove). A bird flies into the narrator’s window and so she takes the body, still as a stone for a lifetime or two, up to the tree tops to protect its body from whatever might disturb it on the ground. When they finally climb all the way up, the bird seemingly comes back to life and flies off.

The album concludes with the relatively short “Cosmia,” which places all of its focus on the death motif that had been running throughout. The image of a moth is at the center of this song (Cosmia is a genus of moth), which is seemingly addressed to a friend of Newsom’s who passed away (though it could also serve as a eulogy for the loss brought up in “Sawdust and Diamonds?”). Life is compared to moths being drawn to a porch light in the darkness, only to end up with their dusty wings singed off. Newsom ends the whole affair with an invocation to her lost friend to maybe let her know if there is “true light” after life.

Joanna Newsom Ys

From an editorial standpoint, Ys is flawless. A quote I like to repeat to myself goes “perfection is not when there’s nothing left to add, it’s when there’s nothing left to take away,” and this is extremely true for this record. Yes, the songs are long, but they really can’t be any shorter. You don’t feel the length at all and every single word is crucial to the intricate lattice work that makes up the album. And this is why I’m talking about this on a comics blog.

Each song tells a more or less singular story, there’s no crossovers, continuations, what have you. In spite of this, you just can’t listen to them out of context without missing most of the point. The magic of the record, and really, the near endless complexity it contains comes out of the interrelationships Newsom has crafted throughout. This is exactly how comics should work at their best — removing any one panel deflates the work and the fully-flushed orchestra becomes a one-note joke. Any time I make work, this album and the lessons I learned from it are at the forefront of my mind.

Joanna Newsom

Of course, there are more direct narrative works in music, but I’ve chosen one that has such a fragmentary construction for a couple of reasons. For one, these are the kinds of structures that really excite me, I like making the connections and figuring out the deepening meaning. I get excited when I can discover something new after experiencing an art work hundreds of times already. This is the kind of work I try to make myself.

The other reason has to do with the kinds of things I think art has the responsibility to fulfill. Basically, we live in a very complex world, this is not news to anyone. Any given moment is rife with innumerable variables that constantly push and move events forward and contribute to the kind of culture we are living in and what kind of culture we will inhabit in the future. The universe is full of patterns, both completely natural and carried through by human activity (which isn’t unnatural itself, it’s just better disguised). Our culture is kind of like a really powerful stream, it’s easy to get swept up and miss a lot of what is really going on. I think that art that challenges us and encourages us to decipher patterns actually helps us take more notice of what’s going on around us. Whether it’s socio-political or just in our own personal lives (the personal is political), if we can begin to recognize the connections around us, we have a better ability to address what may need to be changed. We are better able to communicate these patterns to others.

I think that comics as a medium is perfectly suited to this task. The grammar of comics is actually teaching us pattern recognition, with varying degrees of complexity. A lot of us who make art, we’ve surely said to ourselves before how we want to make work that is meaningful to someone else. It’s the dream of many of us to have something we’ve made change someone’s life. This is one of my biggest motivators for making art, and work like Ys confirms that it’s possible. I know that this record, as well as many comics and other forms of art, has helped me understand my life better, and it’s how we make sense out of the patterns in our lives is what helps us continue living.


A large portion of my understanding about the circumstances of Joanna Newsom creating this album comes from this excellent article by Erik Davis from Arthur Magazine.


Looking Funny

by Kevin Czap

drawings by Vincent Giard

A while ago, the ever-inspiring Frank Santoro wrote up a little soapbox on Comics Comics about drawing style. His position seemed to be a yearning for artists who were mean with a pencil in that representational way Noel Sickles, Alex Toth and Jaime Hernandez (his examples) were known for. Frank was wondering where all the naturalism had gone, seeing a trend away from this style of observational drawing in alt comics. What there tends to be a lot of is what Frank terms as mannerism, or affected drawing.

Part of the issue for him was how at odds this cartoony style felt coupled with the kind of unaffected, slice of life stuff it depicts in these kinds of comics, typically. Now, he wasn’t making a big stink in favor of either approach, per se, but between the lines one could feel some judgement coming through. The underlying bias in the piece was that, just maybe, there’s more to learning to draw from life and then developing a natural style from this than learning to draw cartoons from cartoons.

I’m not bringing this up to pick any kind of fight with Frank or to disagree with his post. At the core of his kind-of-argument, I agree that style can tend to be more exciting when develop through one’s own personal observation of the world. I’m a big big fan of diversity, and of having everyone represent or interact with the world as they alone see it, as much as that is possible. However, whereas the Comics Comics post places an emphasis on sight and naturalistic drawing, I have to confess that my preferences reside elsewhere.

I won’t lie, I mean, I’m as impressed as anyone else when I see folks who can draw really really “well.” What really gets my brain sweating, though, are the ladies and dudes who can draw wild. Aside from whatever emotional or experiential delights I get from it automatically, part of what attracts me to these kind of super-abstract, cartoony drawings is how I’ve come to think about comics. Matt Seneca was speaking truly in his recent Deathcast when he said that everything visual, including things in our real physical space, is made up of encoded symbols and forms. Comics, though, because of the associative nature of the images, seems to really let abstracted forms sing. Our minds are already primed and seeking to make connections — between paneled images, but also the lines and forms that make up everything on the page. I believe that our brains love to be challenged and thrill at the opportunity to decode cartoons. With a lot of fumetti (photo comics), there’s not enough work to do putting the images together, this holds true with drawing styles that are too photo-realistic. It’s almost like we need stylization in comics to get the most out of what we’re reading (feel free to disprove these outrageous theories, by the way, I’m just talking).

Abstraction in comics also lets us fulfill other roles beyond just sight. Something that is draw especially well, yeah that’s what something looks like. Cartooning can get in our heads in a way naturalistic drawing is less capable of, activating other areas of our brains. With it we can somehow show what something feels like, what something might even taste or sound like (for the latter we already have letters, sound effects and onomatopoeia, which all can be stylized out to further the impression). Having a flexible grip on style can induce a wide spectrum of emotional response.

My original intention for writing this post was to talk about the influence my brother’s (Matt Czap) work has had on me. We’ve both been at this cartooning game for a while, but he’s fluctuated between comics artist and first-rate animator for several years. The skill of his that I’ve always aspired to cultivating in myself is his ability to let go and get pretty abstract and silly with his drawings. It’s like he is able to unsee things in a way I am unable to do. The comics I like of his the best are when he’s at his most cartoony, with big round eyes and noodly arms. My favorites are probably the ones he likes the least, like his ill-fated FLCL/Dragon Ball flavored Afro Celebratiom.

Matt Czap Afro Celebratiom

 

It’s clear to me that my appreciation for this kind of cartooning comes out of something that affected both my brother and I while we were growing up. It wouldn’t be too risky to draw a line to the Looney Toons shows I talked about the other week, or to Dr. Seuss’s work, which I’ve also talked about in the past. Yeah, I’ve been saturated with cartoons my whole life, that’s no doubt a large part of my whole thing with it. But I think there’s something more. As I mentioned above, my understanding of comics and drawing has changed over the years, and the feelings I get from looking at cartoony work is different now. It’s almost like an appreciation for the beautiful minimalism of cartooned shapes. There’s a power in the condensed information encoded in the simple lines and colors, kind of like how there’s power in the gutter between two comics panels.

Knowing Matt as well as I do, I don’t think he gives all this stuff much thought. He’s more interested in making good, funny comics and animations than my metaphysical hooey.

Matt Czap

Matt Czap

Matt’s drawing style matches his humor… pretty weird. He currently posts a weekly comic strip on his site, where you can also see his his series Robotbox & Cactus and Breakfast Soup I hope you guys enjoy it as much as I do.